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NormanDunbar
17th May 2006, 09:01
Morning FMC,

What exactly is the state of QDevQT at this moment in time ?
Where is it available from (ie the 'proper' latest version) ?

The reason I ask is as follows :

You kindly helped me out with a plugin problem I was having recently and advised me to look at the code for more on plugins. I found an older version attached to one of your posts and grabbed that.

I also found a discussion of an svn repository at Berlios and grabbed two copies from there - the newly refactored 0.3.1 version and an older 0.2.1 version.

While browsing here on QT Centre yesterday I found a lot of comments about how the code on Berlios wasn't your (or the teams) and how it had all gone to hell and back.

I'd like to study the code and see more of how bigger apps are put together in QT - I'm not that great a C++/QT developer, I'm an Oracle DBA in real life, but I would like to study the most recent code if at all possible. Who knows, I might be able to add to it at some point in the future :)

Cheers,
Norman.

PS. You have my sympathies - I was only recently converted to broadband so I know what it's like to be stuck behind a 56K modem. By the way, I know that your firewall needs a port opening for cvs (can't remember whic one though) so I suspect your problem might be similar with the svn repository. I'm behind a firewall here and although http: is allowed I cannot connect to any svn repository even those with http URLs. :(

fullmetalcoder
17th May 2006, 10:05
The project was DevQt not QDevQT but anyway the current state is :
- unless the former members come back DevQt is dead
- I'm kinda stubborn so I found a new name and continued my work
- The code is progressing and the last version posted (0.3.1) has full plugin support
- Next release will be done (under the new name) when a full project management will be implemented
- if you need any help to understand the plugin system just mail me

vratojr
17th May 2006, 11:32
I have a simple question, and excuse me if it's a stupid question: why are you developing a new IDE for Qt when there is KDevelop? I know that KDevelop isn't exactly born for Qt but.. It's not easier to upgrade/extend KDevelop than writing a totally new IDE? Moreover, why wasting energies in 2 distinct projects when you can work on the same (and so obtain better results)?.

elcuco
17th May 2006, 11:54
FMC,

Thank you once again for telling such news in this way.

Let me understand,
the project "devqt" is dead, and you are taking the code into a new project...?

Does it mean that the "devqt" project is dead officially? Do you mind if I take over that project and play with it?

NormanDunbar
17th May 2006, 12:08
The project was DevQt not QDevQT
Sorry that was my type. Didn't mean to add the extra 'Q'.


The code is progressing and the last version posted (0.3.1) has full plugin support
Wher is it posted please ?


Cheers,
Norman.

fullmetalcoder
17th May 2006, 16:15
FMC,

Thank you once again for telling such news in this way.

Let me understand,
the project "devqt" is dead, and you are taking the code into a new project...?

Does it mean that the "devqt" project is dead officially? Do you mind if I take over that project and play with it?

Let you understand??? Are you kidding elcuco? Didn't you told pasnox in the mailing list that YOU closed the project because YOU didn't see any reason to take part in it?:confused:
As always you're acting and talking kinda weirdly... DevQt is dead as a NAME but the code still leaves on its own (with my insignificant help) and if you didn't notice it let me draw your attention on these words :

unless the former members come back DevQt is dead
As in poesy the important words are at the beginning, the end and the middle of the sentence... I'll let you understand that:p

The code is posted somewhere up there :
http://www.qtcentre.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=380&d=1147243693

elcuco
17th May 2006, 17:16
Let you understand??? Are you kidding elcuco? Didn't you told pasnox in the mailing list that YOU closed the project because YOU didn't see any reason to take part in it?:confused:

Can you please qutoe the exact words I used? I Did not close the mailing list, and did not close the SVN, and I did not even deleted the SQL tables used by the WIKI I started working on last week. (http://devqt.berlios.de/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)

What I would like to know, is "are you doing to use the name devqt on your new project". If you are, then that's ok.

If you are not, that ok as well, but this leaves the name "devqt" open, and since I already have a project open on berlios, I can use it for my own project. I am just been a little lazy, and I do not wish to throw the last 3-4 months to the garbage.

I will ask again, and I would prefear as "YES" or "NO" answer, since this must be clear enough.

1) Are you going to use the name "DevQt" for your next project? (even if it's based on what we call DevQt now)
2) Can I reused the name DevQt for my own purposes?

fullmetalcoder
18th May 2006, 10:35
Since yesterday, I have no active SVN, as devqt got officially closed by me. I see no reason to continue working on that SVN and beeing part of
that project
Seems a good quote, doesn't it?


1) Are you going to use the name "DevQt" for your next project? (even if it's based on what we call DevQt now)
There is no new project! I was talking about a probable continuation of DevQt as I thought, reguarding to what you said, that DevQt has sunken... If we come to a common position about DevQt it may reborn without changing name.


2) Can I reused the name DevQt for my own purposes?
I don't think so.
The copyright notice said :

DevQt (c) FullMetalCoder & the DevQt team
I bet you know the meaning of AND... I can't use the name for without the approval of the team and the team can't use it without my aproval. Moreover you left the team, didn't you? Otherwise I wouldn't have started a "continuation" under a new name...

P.S : the wiki doesn't seem to work...

wysota
18th May 2006, 11:32
The copyright notice said :

I bet you know the meaning of AND... I can't use the name for without the approval of the team and the team can't use it without my aproval. Moreover you left the team, didn't you? Otherwise I wouldn't have started a "continuation" under a new name...

Who invented the name, anyway? Maybe the copyrights should go to the name creator? :)

fullmetalcoder
18th May 2006, 16:12
Who invented the name, anyway? Maybe the copyrights should go to the name creator? :)
Surely! I invented the name and decided to share it with the team (kinda premonition to try to avoid a fork) but it seems it didn't work leaving us in the current situation...