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genetechnics
4th August 2006, 06:33
Cell Computer Project

http://geocities.com/gene_technics


Regards,

Mihail Molin

GeneTechnics Company

sunil.thaha
4th August 2006, 06:50
Thanks for the link, looks interesting

But what are you trying to say ?

genetechnics
4th August 2006, 07:28
I have one idea - if there are any interested programmers on this forum - we could implement the key idea of my project - Compact QWERTY Keyboard - as a mobile application for PDAs with 3.5" displays. Compact QWERTY Keyboard is combining the two international standards - phone numeric keypad and US keyboard layout so I consider it as an open project for the futher cooperation.

jacek
4th August 2006, 10:56
For me it looks like spam.

genetechnics
4th August 2006, 17:44
That only means that I have a real project. I feel like Linus Torvalds at the start of his project. - We have Unix. We don't need another Windows. And like that. Strange people not speaking about "experts".

jacek
4th August 2006, 17:54
That only means that I have a real project.
Your first post looked like you were more interested in luring people to your webpage stuffed with ads then presenting your project. Next time, please, add a small description.

genetechnics
5th August 2006, 21:11
Let's forget this talk about ads. What do you think about the project?

jacek
5th August 2006, 22:44
What do you think about the project?
I see you were inspired by QWERTY, maybe you should try something more usable (http://dvzine.org/zine/index.html)? And what about "fat finger" syndrome? Will be there enough space between keys?

genetechnics
5th August 2006, 22:52
You kidding. For 130 years we have been using QWERTY and it will be always perfect because it has hexagonal structure - the most reliable and perfect in Nature. It's like Da Vinci's Mona Lisa. No copies with the different layout. Only compacted - what I did in my project saving its structure.

jacek
5th August 2006, 22:59
For 130 years we have been using QWERTY and it will be perfect
Some say that QWERTY was designed to reduce the typing speed and people use it only because they are used to it.

genetechnics
5th August 2006, 23:02
No matter. See my previous post.

genetechnics
6th August 2006, 06:49
Really, no matter what layout is used on a standard keyboard - it's easy to switch betweem them if you want type faster, if it's not an international keyboard layout - there are the standards of localization only for QWERTY - the US keyboard layout.

The implementation of international standards is the goal of my project as well as to make a mobile keyboard functional and comfortable for typing and that requires the same system of typing and ergonomic characterictics as of a standard computer keyboard.

The spaces between keys with letters actually are about the same horizontally - 7 mm - a whole column of keys - and switching between the two adjacent keys vertically is also comfortable for fingers when the distance between keys-sensors is 15 mm - this provides the contact area of 12x12 mm for them - 12mm is the width of the horizontal surface of the key of the standard keyboard. That's while the main part of 53 keys in a cell computer is 47X59 mm - four-five times more compact.

jacek
6th August 2006, 12:32
Really, no matter what layout is used on a standard keyboard - it's easy to switch betweem them
Then maybe there is a way to change key annotation dynamically? For example by coating the keyboard with some kind of elastic display (like iPaper stuff). This way you could even reduce the number of keys just by adding a "letter/symbol" modifier.

genetechnics
6th August 2006, 16:38
This way you could even reduce the number of keys just by adding a "letter/symbol" modifier.

Two actions, anyway - that doubles the work. I've seen similar projects in the news. It's just a GUI, nothing new.

The fact is why a standard QWERTY keyboard works is in its hexagonal structure - the keys are in the right places where the fingers are moving (it's like when you untighten the fist - the fingers are moving like rays - four fingers for ten-finger method - three fingers - three standard keys - the width of them is 54 mm - in a cell computer). The rectangular arrangement of the keys is worth only for entering numbers as in a standard computer keyboard's numeric keypad or phone numeric keypad. All the existing implementations of mobile keyboards have *straight lines* of keys - so there is no any signs of the system of typing - just by one finger or by two thumbs. So it's tiresome for more than five minutes of continious work. It's like that all these mini and reduced copies of a standard keyboard are produced just by inertion - for 10 years, at least - only by wishes that sometimes it will work like its original, or at least half of its productivity. No magics. Hexagonal arrangement is the key. Like in 1874 in a Remington typewriter (http://home.earthlink.net/~dcrehr/firsttw.html).


All the existing implementations of mobile keyboards have *straight lines* of keys

But there are wonderful exceptions - HP Jornado 680/690/720

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000J0ND/103-0827250-9855059?v=glance&n=172282

http://www.pocketpcmag.com/_archives/Jan01/images/Jornada720.jpg

"It is possible to touch-type even though the keyboard is very small."

http://www.to-tech.com/mz/windowsce/hp720-review.html