iterator

[mickey]

I'd like to convert iterator to int without using map. is it possible?

vector<boj>::iterator ll;
//int i=1;
for (ll=boj.begin(); ll != boj.end(); ++ll) 
	printf("boj number  %i\n", 
        // i++ I'd like to avoid this way. I don't like

vector<boj>::iterator ll;
//int i=1;
for (ll=boj.begin(); ll != boj.end(); ++ll) 
	printf("boj number  %i\n", 
        // i++ I'd like to avoid this way. I don't like

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And why use '++ll' in for and not 'll++'? Thanks