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[wysota]

Half of the post can be answered by opening QtAssistant, finding required solution and rewriting it in QtCentre forum

Half? I'd say "about 90%". The rest just requires some experience.

I agree with you, that copy pasting code without even reading it, doesn't help. But that's up to the reader.

That would be true if he had to pay some money for the solution to the person who provided it. But if answers are free then why bother looking for them yourself if there are people who will do it for you? So I'd say it's really up to the person providing the solution. Next time he/she simply won't bother doing that at all.

[JohannesMunk]

That would be true if he had to pay some money for the solution to the person who provided it. But if answers are free then why bother looking for them yourself if there are people who will do it for you?

What would money change? Would it take away the feeling of being exploited? I think, that can only be cured by an honest "thank you". And some people are kind enough to say it. We should have a law for it, though :->

So I'd say it's really up to the person providing the solution. Next time he/she simply won't bother doing that at all.

What somebody does with something you helped him with is entirely his thing. I think that's something fundamental to true help. Think of somebody saving another one's life. He owes him a big thank you. But the saver doesn't own the saved person's life afterwards. Otherwise its not help, but some kind of extortion in disguise.

With helping the situation is always a little pre-loaded.. Because as helper you do expect some kind of gratitude. If that gratitude fails your expectations or is replaced by bold demands, trouble is underway. I don't have a solution for that. I just tend to avoid those people afterwards. And try to keep my hopes up, that the next person will not fail me.

Good night!

Johannes

[wysota]

What would money change? Would it take away the feeling of being exploited?

It's the other way round. You'd ask questions more carefully and try doing something yourself first if you had to pay (even a small fee) for each answer you get.

What somebody does with something you helped him with is entirely his thing.

Oh, no argument here. Of course provided he doesn't violate any licence.

I think that's something fundamental to true help. Think of somebody saving another one's life. He owes him a big thank you. But the saver doesn't own the saved person's life afterwards. Otherwise its not help, but some kind of extortion in disguise.

Would you jump from a cliff if you knew someone would save you? Would you jump if you didn't know if someone would be there to save you?

Of course you can also look at things from the other person's perspective: If someone would be jumping off the cliff all the time, wouldn't you grow tired of saving him constantly and telling him not to do it again?

[JohannesMunk]

Damn.. now I wrote for 15minutes.. and pressed the wrong button. Everything lost.. Happened to me twice today. Can't the "+Reply to Thread" Button be disabled, when using the Quick Reply box?

I'll answer again tomorrow!

Johannes

[wysota]

Happened to me too If you're using Firefox, install the "Lazarus" extension.

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An easy solution is not to use the quick reply box I always click "Go advanced" to take care of this. I've been bitten before.

[JohannesMunk]

Thanks for sharing your button experiences :-> I have installed Lazarus. And for the longer replies I'll use the advanced mode from now on :-> But back to our discussion!

It's the other way round. You'd ask questions more carefully and try doing something yourself first if you had to pay (even a small fee) for each answer you get.

I see your point! But that could also be solved by reputation. If each question/thread got a "laziness"-rating, where you could pursue your frustration when answering, and each profile would show an average laziness value of the threads started, maybe that could bring some lazy-posters down. As the thanks button boosts helping..

Would you jump from a cliff if you knew someone would save you? Would you jump if you didn't know if someone would be there to save you?

Good imagery! I would not. Both times. I'm not suicidal :-> Speaking of saving a life was maybe a bit to drastic of me. Because I don't think that a lot of people around here, start there projects, planning to rely on external (free) support. It's maybe more like getting a little lost underway. And you can either stumble around on your own for some time, or you can ask the nice lady in the shop for directions.

Of course you can also look at things from the other person's perspective: If someone would be jumping off the cliff all the time, wouldn't you grow tired of saving him constantly and telling him not to do it again?

Well if the same person got lost all the time, and each time demanded that I drove him home, I would give up after some time, sure. That's whats happening here I think. But the problem is that there are so many people, getting lost a bit. And each one of them deserves a fresh start! Without being ranted at. And thats the problem with a bad atmosphere: Its quite undirected..

What do you think? Would a laziness value help?

Johannes

[wysota]

We already have a reputation scoring system here. You can click the star icon under each post and modify the author's reputation rating. Try it

[JohannesMunk]

Allright. But there is no public consequence. Where is the reputation rating visible for every one else?

[wysota]

But there is no public consequence.

There will be once people start using the system. For example we'll disable posting in any forums but the newbie forum for people with low reputation.

Where is the reputation rating visible for every one else?

The green rectangle under a user name and user title in each of the posts marks the reputation. Hovering over it will give a more elaborate description. You can compare your reputation, mine and that of franco.ammato - they will differ.

[JohannesMunk]

This is great! Why don't you make a sticky explaining all of this in detail? Because I looked for news of the site itself.. wanted to read about the new design, but couldn't find anything.

How are the comments on the post going to be used? Just as a note to the poster? Or visible for the public? How should they be phrased? What levels of reputation are there?

Johannes

[pitonyak]

There will be once people start using the system. For example we'll disable posting in any forums but the newbie forum for people with low reputation.

Interesting idea that may have prevented any of my replies to date because I am new and as such, have no reputation.

[wysota]

You do have enough reputation that wouldn't prevent you from posting elsewhere.