@nroberts:
ither way I'm not particularly interested in "discussing" with someone that is not interested in curing their ignorance any more than "discussing" with someone that only wants to appear right, no matter what it takes.
you should read you own words, and act on it, especially the last part of the sentance.
You ignorance may not be so much in the technical issues, which clearly you seem to know quite a bit about, but about conduct, and proper manner in discourse.
That too, is an important skill, and it seems you ignorance in that department, is larger than the your technical knowledge.
Maybe its not ignorance, it seems more likes its exactly what is in the sentence of yours that I quoted.
Too bad really, since I think your non emotional contribution to the thread was good, and interesting.

May we close this thread now please?
It brings no new value to anyone anymore.