Qt "Quick" !?

[liversedge]

Please tell me I am wrong, but having to develop basic UI components in QML before I can construct an application seems, well, not quick. I understand that you can integrate qwidgets via qgraphicsproxywidget, but that's not recommended?

What kind of significant desktop apps are there that use QML and Qt Quick? I desperately want to embrace this technology for the basic UI framework (sidebars, panels, toasts, overlays etc) but still want to embed my own qwidgets within that. Am I dreaming, or is there an easy way to do this?

TIA,
Mark

[wysota]

There are widget components available for Qt Quick. However there is no point in using Qt Quick if you just want widgets. In such situation just use widgets...

[liversedge]

Right now, the developer needs to create their own implementation of basic ui components like text boxes, bullet lists, file pickers. They ARE needed, of course, but the developer needs to start from scratch. To argue that you use QML / Qt Quick if you don't need them is kind of stupid - users will always need to interact with your app.

I think what you are saying is that QML/Qt Quick is only useful for developers that want to roll their own components. If that really is the intent, then it is doomed to fail.

But given there are components for symbian I suspect that was not the intent. It is just technology that is heading in the right direction but has stalled along the highway. Right now it is stuck in the middle of nowhere.

This looks exciting though: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2012/06/06/...ents-for-qt-5/

[wysota]

Right now, the developer needs to create their own implementation of basic ui components like text boxes, bullet lists, file pickers. They ARE needed, of course, but the developer needs to start from scratch. To argue that you use QML / Qt Quick if you don't need them is kind of stupid - users will always need to interact with your app.

I think what you are saying is that QML/Qt Quick is only useful for developers that want to roll their own components. If that really is the intent, then it is doomed to fail.

No, I mean there are components available for Qt Quick that look and behave as standard widgets.

Nevertheless these two worlds don't mix that much, Qt Quick is good for some problems but useless for others and we all have to accept that. If you look at it from a broader perspective, it's all similar with widgets. If you port Qt to a new platform, you have to implement a style for all widgets as well, practically from scratch. If you used style meant for Windows on a Mac, it would have looked really bad, wouldn't it?

[liversedge]

No, I mean there are components available for Qt Quick that look and behave as standard widgets.

I could not find any reference to these beyond symbian components. Would you mind posting a url or reference?

TIA.

[wysota]

http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-components/desktop

[liversedge]

Ah ok, thats the same thing I linked to. It won't be available until at least 5.1 or 5.2. So we are still stuck half way down the highway in the middle of nowhere

[wysota]

Ah ok, thats the same thing I linked to. It won't be available until at least 5.1 or 5.2.

It is available right now.

You can download it by following this link: http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-component...tarball/master

[liversedge]

Sorry I missed your follow up. It is a prototype, and the repo is closed. When it is done in QT5 then it will be worth pursuing. I notice that Digia have made it a priority though, so maybe it will come sooner. http://blog.qt.digia.com/2012/09/18/...-starts-today/

[wysota]

Well, the "prototype" is quite functional, if you ask me

[liversedge]

Oh yes, indeed it is functional, can't wait until it is part of QT proper.