Creating slots with Q_OBJECT

[VireX]

It becomes extremely annoying when I have to deal with things like qmake and nmake, which I have dealt with in linux, and it's extremely annoying to do. Which is why i found the template file, which should have done all this for me. I even tried an example i found right out of the documentation of trolltech, and not anywhere did i see a #include moc, or any other compiler options to be set anywhere. It would be easier if there was something I could do, so that I wouldn't have to do this. I do not understand the link you have sent me, now unless I spend 2 hours reading every little document about it, I won't be able to build this.

From what you've told me, all I understand is that Qt has some extra things that needs to be done in order to understand things like "emit" "slots" "signals" and instead of them doing all the work in some header file, as I've seen in windows (excuse me for saying, but my only GUI experience is HEAVY and Lengthy use of Win32 API, which is difficult and buggy, so I used Qt hoping it would be easier, but with all these external libraries and compile this and use this program to attach this and that , it becomes more of a hassle than a helpful library), I have to now do something in order to compile these moc files, which I don't even know where they come from or what makes them... I'm suppose to include something that doesn't exist...

I usually use Visual Studio .NET 2003, but it can get very very annoying when setting up the settings, and the template file I thought handled most of it, but it seems I still have 3 bulky DLLs which i don't know how to link to my program as "lib" or "a" files. So how do I do this? Does anyone have "dummy steps" without going into too much technical detail about the library itself? (keep in mind, that I am only experienced in pure C++ and winAPI not these kinds of libraries etc) How do I make these moc files, and if possible, do you think it can be applied into the DevC++ template file? I also think i don't need the little command that says ActiveQt because I will never use ActiveX anything.

EDIT:
I seperated my file to a .h too.
Ok so I used moc in my bin directory, as such: moc -o QTmain.moc QTmain.h
And it made the moc file, which I then added to my DevC++ project. So I did basically what you guys wanted me to do, which was to have this moc file integrated to my program.

[Linker error] undefined reference to `MyWidget::staticMetaObject'
[Linker error] undefined reference to `vtable for MyWidget'
and i got the same results.

[camel]

It becomes extremely annoying when I have to deal with things like qmake and nmake, which I have dealt with in linux, and it's extremely annoying to do.

Personally I do not think so.

When I want to compile a project of mine I do

qmake
make

qmake
make

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and I am done...

Which is why i found the template file, which should have done all this for me.

Where did you find it? Perhaps you ask the author of the template why it doesn't work as it should?

I even tried an example i found right out of the documentation of trolltech, and not anywhere did i see a #include moc, or any other compiler options to be set anywhere.

The examples use qmake which hides all those nasty things. (If you do not start to digg too deep ;-)

The include trick I mentioned is only needed when you declare a QObject subclass in a cpp file. But that should not normally be needed.

From what you've told me, all I understand is that Qt has some extra things that needs to be done in order to understand things like "emit" "slots" "signals" and instead of them doing all the work in some header file, as I've seen in windows <snip> I have to now do something in order to compile these moc files, which I don't even know where they come from or what makes them... I'm suppose to include something that doesn't exist...

You should not have to care about anything. MOC is an implementation detail that should be abstracted away. It is in qmake, it probably should also for this template, but since I do not work with devc++ I have no idea why it would not.

I usually use Visual Studio .NET 2003, but it can get very very annoying when setting up the settings, and the template file I thought handled most of it, but it seems I still have 3 bulky DLLs which i don't know how to link to my program as "lib" or "a" files.

Allow me the question, why don't you like the dlls? (Just pure curiosity :-)

So how do I do this? Does anyone have "dummy steps" without going into too much technical detail about the library itself?

Does this this thread help?
In the end you "just" have to reconfigure an rebuild Qt to be static.
(But I do not think that you can loose the mingw dll...but you might want to google that)

How do I make these moc files, and if possible, do you think it can be applied into the DevC++ template file?

Well, I am not too fluid with devc++ but from a (german) article it seems that you have to include a custom makefile/qmake step to have devc++ play nice.


Does it have to be DevC++?
In the Qt Software forum a few native Qt4 IDEs have been posted, which probably know how to work with Qt out of the box. (I cannot give you my word that they work since I am a vi/qmake/make user myself :-)

If you like Visual Studio, the comercial edition of Qt 4 for windows has Visual Studio integration available (at a price though).


Hope that helps...

[VireX]

Why should I have to figure out how to use qmake, and nmake, when i can just press compile and compile any project I need as long as the project options are set to do everything that you do manually.

I found it online, it's made by some french guy, so I cannot ask him. And it does work, because I am ableto compile and run programs and make them work. But whenever I put Q_OBJECT it causes problems. I don't think thats the fault of the template, but more of the fault of the documents not explaining what to do. Or why they do not have specific tutorials for DevC++/VC++ and other specific compilers, with easy to follow steps that once done, everything should work fine without the users having to spend hours and hours reading thru docs trying to figure out how to just compile..

"You should not have to care about anything. MOC is an implementation detail that should be abstracted away."
I do not use qmake, so I don't know how it is implemented, and I don't understand why it's even there. What am I suppose to do. From what I gathered, this moc file needs to somehow be integrated into my program, so I made the moc file, and i added it to my project, but the error persists, meaning moc wasn't the problem?? or the moc.exe in the bin is buggy or not working? Or there is something else I am required to do other than write "Q_OBJECT" on my classes and add the moc file.

I wish that tutorials were available for QT that wasn't from trolltech, that perhaps had .DEV files or .vc++ files, for VC++ and DevC++. So we do not have to figure this out or use the little qmake stuff. An idea like the template file i showed you, is a great idea, if there was such things for VC++ too that would be great. Well anyway I guess i'll hope someone who knows how moc should be included in the project when NOT using qmake appears, or someone who uses DevC++ to make QT

[camel]

I found it online, it's made by some french guy, so I cannot ask him.

Well, a lot of french do speak english, so you might try :-)

Or why they do not have specific tutorials for DevC++/VC++ and other specific compilers, with easy to follow steps that once done, everything should work fine without the users having to spend hours and hours reading thru docs trying to figure out how to just compile..

Trolltech has (from what I hear) a rather nice integration to Visual Studio, but it is only included in the commercial package. If those documents do not exist, it would be rather nice if you found the time to write something up and add it to the wiki once your problems are solved. It could save other people a lot of work...the one you are experiencing right now.

I do not use qmake, so I don't know how it is implemented, and I don't understand why it's even there.

QMake is a cross-platform makefile/projectfile generator. I can very easily describe my project, i.e. what sources/headers/resources etc. I am using, and it will generate makefiles or visual studio project files (in the commercial setting or with the hack mentioned a little later) for you. You do not have to care about a thing. Added something? Run QMake again and you are set.

I wish that tutorials were available for QT that wasn't from trolltech, that perhaps had .DEV files or .vc++ files, for VC++ and DevC++. So we do not have to figure this out or use the little qmake stuff. An idea like the template file i showed you, is a great idea, if there was such things for VC++ too that would be great.

Did you check through the Qt Centre Wiki? :-)

Have you tried integration in Visual Studio?

Well anyway I guess i'll hope someone who knows how moc should be included in the project when NOT using qmake appears, or someone who uses DevC++ to make QT

Good Luck :-)

[VireX]

I am not gonna ask him. Obviously he made the template and he knew what he was doing, and maybe just didn't think of people that use Q_OBJECT...

It's great that you can describe your project and all. But that means I have to make .pro files and then make shortcuts for qmake and have to change the pro file everytime, to do everything. I'd rather just click Build+run in DevC++ which is much easier. Especially since when making gui I compile and run the program every 10 seconds after every change.

The wiki only mentions DevC++ once, it does mention mingw a lot, but always talks about qmake etc. I guess there has never been a QT programmer that just uses DevC++.

[VireX]

Sorry I cannot edit anymore.
Anyway, my main questions now is:
1) How do I make simple pro files, and then do : nmake \n qmake? in the folder with the pro file? And this will get rid of this bug?
2) What does qmake do, that my compiler (MingW) with DevC++ does not do?-- What is missing in my project that's not missing when people use qmake? I've tried using "moc.exe" to create a .moc file for my header file in my project. I tried including it in my project, and still same linker errors.

From what I understand, the linker errors are a result of not being able to find the QStaticMetaObject stuff that MOC makes when we macro Q_OBJECT, Because it declares classes and functions to be used, but doesn't implement it. So how can I implement it so that it will stop linker errors? (hopefully without using qmake)

EDIT: ok this time, I just took the whole moc file, and I just pasted it at the bottom of my cpp file : QTmain.cpp I removed the "include QTmain.h" from the moc code.
However, this is still a problem, because that means I have to make an moc file everytime and include that or paste it whatever everytime. Is there an easier way?

[jacek]

1) How do I make simple pro files, and then do : nmake \n qmake? in the folder with the pro file?

qmake -project
qmake
make

But you should use "qmake -project" only once and later just edit the .pro file manually. Remember to set QT variable in the .pro file, if you use other components than QtCore and QtGui.

2) What does qmake do, that my compiler (MingW) with DevC++ does not do?

It creates a Makefile with proper rules for using moc, rcc and uic.

[VireX]

Well thx, but it failed.
It kept trying to find mingw-make and stuff, so I put those in system32 (they were in dev-cpp's bin), and then this time after i fixed up the qmake file, and then used mingw32-make, it tried to build it, but it gave hundreds of linker errors "no matching function called operator new(Qstring &......." and things like that. Well i'll keep trying things.

[jacek]

Well thx, but it failed.
It kept trying to find mingw-make and stuff, so I put those in system32 (they were in dev-cpp's bin), and then this time after i fixed up the qmake file, and then used mingw32-make, it tried to build it, but it gave hundreds of linker errors "no matching function called operator new(Qstring &......." and things like that.

It looks like your compiler isn't installed correctly or at least some environment variables aren't set.

How did you install Qt? Did you use the installer? Did it ask for MinGW location? Also try compiling your application from "Qt 4.2.x Command Prompt".

[TheRonin]

If you installed Qt and the MinGW compiler correctly, then you should have a PATH variable that points to their respective /bin/ folders. You can check your path by right clicking on My Computer-->properties-->advanced-->environment variables.

The top part of the window that pops up (user variables), should contain a variable called Path. (You may create it if it doesn't already exist). If you double click on it and copy the contents to a text editor so you can get a better overview. If you look at it, you can see if Qt and MinGW's /bin/-paths are included. If not, add them.

My Path-variable looks like this: P:\Qt\MinGW-gcc-3.4.2\bin;P:\Qt\MinGW-gcc-3.4.2\insight\bin;P:\Qt\qt-win-4.1.4-mingw\bin

Once that's done you can call the qmake and make programs from anywhere. I, like Jacek compile like so:

qmake -project (when i'm starting a new project. qmake autogenerates the .pro file.)
qmake (creates the Makefiles from the .pro file.)
make ((or in my case, mingw32-make) compiles the application based on the generated Makefiles.)

When i add new files to my project i add them to the .pro file instead of the Makefile since i run qmake to regenerate the Makefile. Runnin gqmake is not something i need to do every time i compile.

I hope this helps and that you don't write Qt off because of a few stumbles in the beginning. I'm pretty sure the problems you've been experiencing stem from the template file you're using and not Qt itself.

[VireX]

Using Qt with QTmake is difficult. I used the template file to make it as simple as possible, but that has the setback of the mos handling... so I still havent' found a solution.

But a lot of things turn me off... like just trying to figure out how shortcuts work. Like there is no button->keypressed(QT::ENTER);, which would be the assumed OOP idea... I still haven't figured out how to get those kinds of events... i'll keep searching tho...
EDIT: hah thats hilarious, i just found button->setAccel, didnt see it before. scratch that! But I still dont know how to set a shortcut just by pressing the KEY, like how F1 will bring help in most programs.

THe fact alone that I haven't found a single major tutorial site with lots of Qt tutorials. The only resources is, Qt's own docs and this forum... I haven't found any site, that walks thru programming something as simple as an instant messenger, or a notepad with a lot of functions. I know there is like a syntax highlighter example somewhere around here, but i mean i haven't seen others elsewhere.

[TheRonin]

Well, i'm sorry you find working with qmake difficult. Since it's only a few steps to use it the first time, most of us don't need a template file since using one would in all likelihood add more steps than it removed. I had hoped that my last post would clear things up for you a little but i guess it didn't I'll have to work on explaining things more clearly in the future.

The specific problem you mention can be solved with a look at some of the Qt examples included in your installation or a search through the forums. I don't have the answer for you on hand but i recall seeing some example of how to do it. If i'm not mistaken you will need to register to receive keyPressed events from your main widget and then implement a protected method for it. In that method you can filter for the desired key(s). I did something like that in an application that was to have a unique responce to the enter key. I'm sorry i can't give you more elaborate help than that right now but i don't have access to my Qt stuff at the moment.

When i work with Qt and try to do something new, i often turn to these forums and the Qt Assistant (that is to say, the Qt api and documentation). 99% of the time i can find an example or a thorough explanation of the steps involved in using some feature or performing a task. Sure, it's a little work, but i personally find the detective work involved in figuring out how to do something to be part of the thrill. Makes seeing it work that much more enjoyable. At the same time i can understand your frustration. Perhaps there should be some site dedicated to open-source Qt projects where more elaborate examples could be made available.

best of luck.
-TR